In this clip of The Manager’s Playbook, Ray Daniels and I break down the “Science vs. Magic” theory in music and how understanding both sides can lead to sustained success.
We explore how artists like Future evolved from raw creative energy into a more calculated, strategic approach and why that shift matters. Drake’s unique blend of instinct and precision is also highlighted as a blueprint for balancing both worlds.
Expect real-world examples, industry gems, and personal stories about navigating the business side of artistry, from viral moments to building long-term careers.
Simply put, a conversation like this doesn’t come cheap.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Science vs. Magic Theory
01:29 Future, Drake & Creative Approaches
02:39 Strategy in Music Careers
04:55 Business & Government Parallels
06:22 Career Moves & Industry Lessons
12:35 Reverse Engineering Success
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You absolutely right, they aren’t beefing. Elon just wants folks to stop torching his Teslas.
The story of my life 13:13
stop interrupting the guest
Future is goat he a the scientist The trendsetter
Drake is science 15 years giving hits, pure consistent…
Thank yall ao much!!! You cant get this level of the business unless you in it
Ill be in touch for a 1 on 1
Today you don’t even know what a hit song is.
U beleive t hat bs they were the face of cheating
He socks as a interviewer He think he can compete with Ray he cutting him off so much you can feel the jealousy
Ray trying to teach thru his experience but the interviewer seeing it like he being flexed on worst interviewer I've ever heard but this I did it better than u attitude is normal with this type of lil boy
Please read Rick Rubin’s book: The Creative Act: A Way of Being. I don’t agree with oh science and this. Unless you love this science . If you don’t love it then why tf would you do it .
5:00 – Immediately thought of Backstreet vs N'SYNC. Around their 2nd albums, both acts were under Jive Records, so the entire label laughed its way to the bank. 💰
🗣️”Shoutout all the dope Artist this our year”🥶👣🙏🏾🔥
Future is BAFFLING cuz I cant Figure out who heard that ish and thought he was the one… 🤷🏾
Great podcast..!!
But you interrupt way too much when the guest are making an important statement…!! I almost couldn't make it through the interview.
Don't lose your audience by doing something so annoying.
All it would take is for someone else to do the same type of podcast that don't interrupt the guest and everyone will turn their focus….
14min of pure knowledge, you gotta keep up if you want to go up !!
That is not how future came up but nice try everything dude say isn’t right I’m not just a yes man and gonna agree with whatever you say all the podcaster is doing
This is exactly why Andy and Bruno were lightning in a bottle. Andy’s the magic and Bruno’s the science.
Facts about the seeing you part
I hope you did a cleansing for your feet. That’s your stability. Respectfully. Ninjas ain’t slick.
This episode hit deep 🔥 It reminds me so much of the conversations we’re having on my podcast “What Ya Mama Didn’t Tell Ya.” We dig into the raw, unspoken stuff. The healing, eye-opening talks we wish we had growing up. Think mama-to-young-adult truth bombs with love, grace, and a little generational spice 🧠✨ Come check us out if you’re into real talk that challenges, heals, and uplifts.
The science is formula, passion, intention, vision, taste, having FUN.
Virgo things 😅
No ones gonna comment the fart at 12:50?
No one's gonna comment the fart at 12:50? 😂
I can't articulate how valuable this conversation is to me at the beginning of my music career.
R. KELLY & KANYE WEST GOT TO BE THE TOP 2 SCIENTIST OUT OF CHICAGO!